Wednesday, February 17, 2010

Facebook Politics: Aborting Fetuses (& Proper Grammar Skills)

This is an excerpt from a facebook "wall-to-wall" convo I had with someone with whom I attended high school ("Paul"). "DeAnne", who also joined the convo, is one one of Paul's facebook friends.

Madeline Kirkpatrick: hey Paul, congrats on getting married! Nice to see you are doing well...I noticed you're a "fan" of an anti-abortion page...surely you aren't supportive of an ideology that promotes the oppression of a female's right to control her body?
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Paul Anderson: Hey Good to see you too! Thanks married life is good! We like it! In our society people don't nesscerarly have total right over their bodies. We can't assest in suicide, medical procedures are looked at and aproved for safety, and also drugs, prostituition are all against the law. It's because like it or not our society for the most part believes that life has value and our bodies are something special. So no I don't think that women have to right to kill pre-delivered babies.
February 11 at 6:44pm


DeAnne Cochran: Hello Paul, I couldn't help but notice you and your friends opinions and I would like to voice mine. I think you might want to re-examine the idea of ownership and possessiveness and the motive of such ideas. Is that a good thing that the gov't tells me what I can and can't do with my body? Is that a good thing that drugs and prostitution are illegal? In fact,the facts and common sense would say that the illegalization of drugs was the worst thing for humanity. Women pass an egg every month, men masturbate. However,that genetic mass in a womans womb is technically not a baby. If there is such a thing as a soul you would have to earn it. Until you have values and can make choices, how could you have an everlasting and ethical soul? You just tried to justify fascism and promoted a dictatorial form of gov't.
February 11 at 7:58pm

DeAnne Cochran: There are 600,000 cops in america at all levels,and then there are also 600,000 registered sex offenders. Even if we had one cop per sex offender you still couldn't prevent this
preventable ritual, habitual abuse. Yet in every county in every state there is highly organized task forces specifically targeting non violent substance users. There were over 800,000 "marijuana" arrests last year. What a fraud and a waste... if you ask me We should have a right to do whatever we want with our bodies including sell them for sex or use psychadelic substances.There were no drug laws until about 1914. The U.s wasn't in trillions of debt of monopoly fiat reserve notes.WE actually had gold currency that was real! So please justify how genetic mass inside a woman is a "baby"?

February 11 at 7:59pm

Madeline Kirkpatrick: Paul, I know you're full of the best intentions and I know you truly have a good heart so I will simply have to respectfully disagree with your resigned perspective on basic human rights.


However, regardless of what any patriarchial dogma may lead you to believe, I DO have complete control over my body because, like you, I value life- MY life and the lives of any potential children that may come into this world. There are many "life-valuing" people (myself included) who see the inherent value of NOT bringing children into a world that is already fraught with unwanted children. This doesn't mean I believe that abortion is a viable form of birth control- in fact, I agree with you that abortion is a very sad, very difficult topic. But you, dear Paul, are not in a position that affords you the right to pass judgement. No one has that right except the pregnant woman who is grappling with the heart-wrenching CHOICE of abortion.

I understand you and I will never agree on the "morality" aspect of this issue but I challenge you to consider this: Human rights aside, how can we function as an "abortion-free" society when we vehemently refuse to equip our adolescents with real and practical safe sex practices- ones that could theoretically prevent any need for abortion in the first place? If you are really looking to end, or at least severely decrease, the practice of abortion, try working for real, viable, and practical social reform that educates people so they can CHOOSE to not get pregnant in the first place instead of relying on pre-packaged, Christian hate.
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